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Legal Reform

Postby sandman » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:14 am

Websites Cash-In on Internet Mugshots
Mugshots should only be released following a conviction. No one should be shamed for simply being arrested! There are two solutions to this problem:
1) Sue the living shit out of people who post these photos online
2) Sue the living shit out of legal authorities who release these photos to the public without a conviction
I'd actually go a step further and suggest that mugshots only be released of convicted felons and not for people convicted of misdemeanors.
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Re: Legal Reform

Postby tronagirl » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:35 pm

I'd call this a form of slander! The thugs responsible for these websites should be shut down. This is not a freedom of speech issue. This is an invasion of privacy. Public agencies should not release private information and no one should be allowed to post private information about anyone period, end of discussion!!!
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Re: Legal Reform

Postby surfsteve » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:57 am

If you closed that site down it seems like you would also have to close down sites like Facebook if you're going to be fair.
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Re: Legal Reform

Postby tronagirl » Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:11 pm

surfsteve wrote:If you closed that site down it seems like you would also have to close down sites like Facebook if you're going to be fair.

I know people talk a lot of crap on Facebook, but that doesn't mean Facebook should be shut down. It just means that the people who slander other people on Facebook should be held accountable. I think there's a huge difference between sites that post mugshots and Facebook. The mugshot sites are opportunistic, sleazy operations taking advantage of nosey people at the expense of those unfortunate enough to have been arrested by possible out-of-control cops. Facebook allows people to correspond and share information. When people cross the line and share inappropriately, that's when they should be kicked off Facebook or sued for slander.
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Re: Legal Reform

Postby surfsteve » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:22 am

First I have to admit I didn't see the video till just now. Even so it seems that there are already laws against defaming another person's character. I'd much rather see existing laws take care of this than adding new laws that may have unintended consequences. There are already too many laws on the books and I wouldn't be surprise if the majority of people getting mug shots wouldn't even be there in the first place if there weren't. I'll bet most of the money made from these type of websites does indeed come from innocent people because the guilty ones probably are in jail already or have to many other problems to even care.
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Re: Legal Reform

Postby shadylady » Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:37 am

sandman wrote:Websites Cash-In on Internet Mugshots
Mugshots should only be released following a conviction. No one should be shamed for simply being arrested! There are two solutions to this problem:
1) Sue the living shit out of people who post these photos online
2) Sue the living shit out of legal authorities who release these photos to the public without a conviction
I'd actually go a step further and suggest that mugshots only be released of convicted felons and not for people convicted of misdemeanors.

surfsteve wrote:First I have to admit I didn't see the video till just now. Even so it seems that there are already laws against defaming another person's character. I'd much rather see existing laws take care of this than adding new laws that may have unintended consequences. There are already too many laws on the books and I wouldn't be surprise if the majority of people getting mug shots wouldn't even be there in the first place if there weren't. I'll bet most of the money made from these type of websites does indeed come from innocent people because the guilty ones probably are in jail already or have to many other problems to even care.

I don't see how Sandman is calling for new laws. In fact, it seems to me that he's talking about eliminating laws that make it impossible to sue public officials, for instance. The law already presumes the innocence of those arrested and charged with crimes. Therefore it would seem reasonable that no punitive measures should be taken against a person unless they are convicted of a crime. Releasing a mugshot is a punitive measure. Arrest records and mugshots made public make it almost impossible to get a job and being prevented from getting a job sounds about as punitive as you can get short of actual incarceration as far as I'm concerned. I agree that proper application of existing laws should be enough to eradicate this opportunistic and predatory behavior.
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Re: Legal Reform

Postby cactuspete » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:39 am

Women Shot by LAPD in Dorner Manhunt Gets The Shaft :wtf:
These women should just sue the heck out of the LAPD. It's ridiculous that they were shot at in the first place and now they have to deal with the idiots in charge. Sometimes I think we are in more danger from the folks that are supposed to protect and serve than from the so-called criminals!
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Re: Legal Reform

Postby mrfish » Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:45 am

Family Sues Walmart Over False Accusations of Child Pornography
This is one of those unbelievable stories that illustrates how there are idiots no matter where you go. The first idiot was the person working at Walmart. The second idiot was the police detective who was too stupid to realize that these were innocent nudes. Then there was the district attorney who also was obviously poorly trained. All three of these individuals should be sued and WalMart should also be sued. There's no excuse for this kind of incompetence no matter how you look at it. The fact that public officials can't be sued over matters like this just guarantees that incompetent idiots will continue to make decisions which impact regular citizens. This is an area in desperate need of reform!!!!!!
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Re: Legal Reform

Postby surfsteve » Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:26 am

Actually they are suing Walmart. Once again an example of there being too many laws. There should not be a law against being able to sue public officials. Why are they above the law? They need to be at risk from bad behavior just like the rest of us.
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Re: Legal Reform

Postby shadylady » Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:12 am

Ariz. Man Set Free After 40 Years in Prison :curse:
This is a perfect example of why public officials should be subject to lawsuits. An innocent man does not get convicted unless someone has cheated or acts in a prejudicial manner. You are innocent until PROVEN guilty and it is impossible to prove what didn't happen... and yet it happens all the time!
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