History of Downed Commercial Flights

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Re: History of Downed Commercial Flights

Postby a2z » Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:37 pm

MH17 witness emerges, claims Ukrainian jet brought down Boeing
It seems pretty inevitable at this point that eventually there will be indisputable evidence that Ukraine shot down the airliner. Since the USA was 100% behind Ukrainian operations that makes the USA responsible for the deaths of the approximately 300 people on board the plane. I wonder if the press will bash the USA as aggressively as they've bashed Russia. Afterall, the USA has complete knowledge of what happened that day and they've decided to hide it from the world. So much for transparency, but then they haven't fessed up to instigating the overthrow of the legitimately elected Ukrainian government either, so what can we expect?
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Re: History of Downed Commercial Flights

Postby mrgreen » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:31 pm

MH17 theories - For and against the SU-25 :alien:
This news clip provides a pretty convincing argument for why the MH17 was not shot down by a missile fired from the ground.
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Re: History of Downed Commerical Flights

Postby desertrat » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:41 am

The release of the recent report does provide reasonably conclusive evidence that the airliner was shot down by a BUK missile, but it doesn't provide any proof as to who shot down the airliner and the set of circumstances leading to the mistake which cost so many people their lives. Ultimately, if the Ukranians had not been bombing the area, then the accident would not have happened and so obviously there's no escaping the conclusion that the Ukranians are to blame. However, the question as to who actually fired the missile still remains.
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Re: History of Downed Commercial Flights

Postby cactuspete » Sat Jan 16, 2016 8:17 am

Dutch MH17 final report 'unsubstantiated' according to Russian probe
There are several good points made in this news clip, which call into question the accuracy of the Dutch report.
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Re: History of Downed Commercial Flights

Postby MojaveMike » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:06 am

Ukraine fabricated evidence for MH17 crash probe
Blame it on Russia might be the agenda, but the evidence does not support their agenda and so they ignore the evidence and just repeat their talking points.
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Re: History of Downed Commercial Flights

Postby desertrat » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:26 am

Iran admits responsibility in shootdown of Ukrainian jetliner
At least Iran eventually admitted its mistake even if it was a couple days after everyone else knew what happened. Ukraine never admitted their mistake and tried to blame it on Russia. Which isn't to say that Iran is any better than the Ukrainians, but at least they are taking responsibility, although it's a huge embarrassment for the backwards country trying to prove that it isn't hopelessly stuck in the Dark Ages.
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Re: History of Downed Commercial Flights

Postby drdesert » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:22 am

desertrat: I can't remember if the plane was landing in or had just taken off from Tehran, but either way they had the flight schedule. This might be the most bone-headed mistake of this kind in the history of mankind. Makes everyone in the country look like total idiots!
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Re: History of Downed Commercial Flights

Postby CrustyOldFart » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:37 am

Jimmy Carter was embarrased by the Iranians and Trump has put the pressure on Iran and caused them to embarrass themselves. The assassination was a risky call, but it looks like it might turn out well for Trump and everybody else on the planet for that matter.... except for maybe the family of the guy, but he had it coming!
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Re: History of Downed Commercial Flights

Postby mrfish » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:38 am

CrustyOldFart: It looks like Trump knew what he was doing. Everything is falling into place for him as far as Iran goes. Barring something crazy happening it looks like the mainstream press will have to eat its words. All the naysayers look like a bunch of negative ninnies at this point. Trump may be a bit unconventional, but he's getting the job done!
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