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False Accusations Gone Wild

Postby mrgreen » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:12 pm

Al Franken accuser calls speech 'inappropriate'
This is so stupid that it's almost unbelievable, but don't take my word for it. Here are comments left by other viewers:
omg -- the waist? That's it?!?!?

Wait what!? THE WAIST!?

This is the kind of accusation that makes the serious ones, less believable.

Why would he apologize for something he didn't do!

Women like this discredit all women, I didn't realize a man holding my waist while taking a picture was called groping.

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Re: False Accusations Gone Wild

Postby mrgreen » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:21 pm

Roy Moore accuser says she added to yearbook note
Fabrication, exaggeration, hyperbole, embellishment, distortion, smoke and mirrors, outright lies, loose statements, conflation, false claims, weak excuses, etc. ---> All ingredients of false accusations.
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Re: False Accusations Gone Wild

Postby ergot » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:44 pm

‘You couldn't call us all liars,’ Adama Iwu speaks about culture of sexual harassment
Maybe not 100% are liars, but probably somewhere between sixty to ninety percent are liars, especially when we're talking accusations made several years after supposed sexual harassment or assault events. Mass hysteria is a thing that happens far too often here in the USA and we're seeing it happen all around us at this time!
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Re: False Accusations Gone Wild

Postby mrgreen » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:06 pm

Bryan Singer being sued for alleged 2003 rape
Alleged Sexual Assault: 2003
Allegation Made: 2017
Sounds like a false accusation to me. Just another opportunistic piece of crap jumping on the #metoo bandwagon in hopes of fame or fortune.
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Re: False Accusations Gone Wild

Postby sandman » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:27 pm

Rape and sexual assault are terrible crimes, but they still need to be verified.
The bandwagon effect is real and hysteria is a recurrent phenomenon in the USA.
Some number of harrowing encounters described by Weinstein’s accusers and the #MeToo hashtag activists no doubt occurred. But experience and scientific literature show us that a significant portion of these allegations will turn out to be half-truths, exaggerations, or outright fabrications. That’s not victim-blaming. It’s reality-checking.

False accusations are a lot more common than the corporate media is willing to admit.
Turvey and his colleagues explode the “2 percent myth” peddled by politicians, victims’ advocates, and journalists “claiming that the nationwide false report rate for rape and sexual assault is nonexistent.” In fact, the statistic was traced to an unverified citation in a 1975 book by feminist author Susan Brownmiller.

Forty percent is probably about right for false accusations overall, but for delayed accusations the number is certainly much higher.
Published research has documented false rape and sexual-assault rates ranging from 8 percent to 41 percent. Savino notes that in his NYPD’s Manhattan Special Victim Squad, “our false report rate was in the double digits during all of my years. Sometimes, it was as high as 40 percent.” Turvey, Savino, and Mares make clear to students that based on the evidence, as opposed to Facebook trends, “false reports happen; they are recurrent; and there are laws in place to deal with them when they do. They are, for lack of a better word, common.”

Delayed accusations are almost certainly more likely to be false than true. Combine that with the bandwagon effect and multiple delayed accusations against the same individual should increase skepticism all the more!
LINK: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452808/metoo-may-exaggerate-prevalence-sex-crimes
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Re: False Accusations Gone Wild

Postby wildrose » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:27 am

#MeToo on the march: The groupthink and hysteria begin
This article was already posted to the Sexual Grievance Industry thread, but it fits in well here also. As a general rule, my first thought is that if Gloria Allred is representing someone, that it almost certainly is a false accusation. Not all accusations are false, but when they appear as headlines, I become very skeptical since true accusations tend to be handled discreetly, but even then many are false since there's the possibility of a paycheck at the end of the proceedings.
But no, this "guilty until proven innocent" standard on harassment and assault is exactly wrong. Assuming guilt before proof isn’t a way to support victims — rather, it's a well-known and once often practiced way to promote lynchings with pitchfork-pitching hysteria. Incentivizing the mindless reposting of accusations isn’t going to end sexual assault. But it will arouse a mob’s groupthink and narcissism.

LINK: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/metoo-on-the-march-the-groupthink-and-hysteria-begin/article/2640954
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Re: False Accusations Gone Wild

Postby shadylady » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:27 am

Motives for Filing a False Allegation of Rape.
You sometimes hear a news commentator suggest that an allegation must be true because "why would anyone lie about such a serious allegation?" Well, here are eight reasons someone might lie:
...complainants file a false allegation out of material gain, emotional gain, or a disturbed mental state. The list can be subdivided into eight different categories: material gain, alibi, revenge, sympathy, attention, a disturbed mental state, relabeling, or regret. To test the validity of the list, a sample of 57 proven false allegations were studied at and provided by the National Unit of the Dutch National Police (NU). The complete files were studied to ensure correct classification by the NU and to identify the motives of the complainants. The results support the overall validity of the list. Complainants were primarily motivated by emotional gain. Most false allegations were used to cover up other behavior such as adultery or skipping school. Some complainants, however, reported more than one motive.

LINK: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28213722
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Re: False Accusations Gone Wild

Postby dzrtdwg » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:05 pm

It used to be that detectives dropped cases which were obviously false accusations. Now they pursue those cases with vigor. This along with several other factors has increased the false accusation rate. Like most people I strongly object to calling an accuser a victim. That seems just plain crazy to me. Until the verdict is in an accuser is an accuser and considering the number of false convictions, even then an accuser is just an accuser. Victim advocacy has turned in to victim recruitment and glorification. Our society has so many mixed messages about sex that it's amazing that more people aren't totally crazy!
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Re: False Accusations Gone Wild

Postby whiskeypete » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:24 am

It seems to me like a bunch of bitter old women are cashing in on the best opportunity left to them. Sure whatever happened all those years ago was consensual, but what difference does that make? Twist the story around a little and it's good for a little attention, emotional gratification, and/or possibly some money in the form of a lawsuit. Anything's possible and the only way to win big is to roll the dice!
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Re: False Accusations Gone Wild

Postby sandman » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:39 am

whiskeypete: Great point. Most of the women making the accusations are over fifty and many are near seventy. They tried to hook up with famous and influential guys as a shortcut and failed due to lack of talent. Now that they are bitter old women they feel like making false accusations is their only and last chance to gain the fame and attention they so desperately crave.
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